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For some games the blurriness doesn't affect the experience much, but others, it is really disappointing. On the extreme side of things where sharpness really matters, streaming a virtual desktop, in the Focus, the text is blurry and basically unusable, whereas in the Quest 2, the text is quite easy to read. The difference in streaming a movie with a VR app like VD, or watching a desktop only stream in Immersed is also quite extreme in my experience; Immersed stream looks amazing even with movies (because it's streaming the desktop only with its own algorithm), but a VD (using HTC business streaming) stream of the same desktop/movie looks terrible.
I've had some feedback from HTC regarding the bitrate and res increases, but they're basically saying it could be a long time away because other improvements need to happen before the increase can happen. I (literally) don't understand why we can't just have a little bit extra of both even just in beta so we can see how performance is ourselves, but taking HTC at their word that this can't happen means that (for me) the clarity of the Q2 wins basically every time.
I will say, other than the clarity issues, the actual streaming is great, everything is nice and smooth and controllers track well. I really like the headset even with its lense flaws and native apps look really good, so I'm not bashing the headset itself, it would just be amazing if we could up the quality for VR streaming.
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Would it be possible for you guys to pay someone like Guy Godin to assist with this application? I know it's probably not normal, but his virtual desktop is pretty amazing - I use it with my Quest 2. I almost never use my Focus 3, the clarity just isn't there when streaming. I'm sure you guys are under resourced and I think the streaming runs great as it is, but it seems like we'll be forever stuck with a blurry washed out image when streaming. I'm thinking I made a mistake buying the Focus 3, even though it's a great headset, for streaming, the image quality just isn't there.
I don't mean to be critical, it's just that it seems like HTC are selling this headset way short of it's potential. I understand that it is targeted at businesses and I probably shouldn't have bought it thinking that the streaming quality would get better quickly; I guess I just thought it would be more of a priority.
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Hallo, wenn Sie die VIVE Business Streaming Software Software auf Ihrem PC installieren - sieht das so aus, als ob sie richtig funktioniert?Es sollte ein Fenster mit der IP-Adresse Ihres Computers erscheinen. -
Ok, thanks for the info. Still, can't wait to see it 🙂
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On 8/14/2021 at 6:24 AM, HackPerception said:
@vrwanter I'll work to try and drive better messaging out about this when team members return from the weekend.
Any chance of up update on this? Looking forward to some extra crispness and quality with streaming.
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On 8/18/2021 at 6:24 PM, C.T. said:
Added USB Media Transfer Protocol support for both PC and Mac
This is awesome, much easier to be able to just plug it in and copy stuff over.
On 8/18/2021 at 6:24 PM, C.T. said:Fixed an issue where charging indicator showed incorrect status when the power adapter was unplugged
Can confirm this works - mine was saying charging when not plugged in
On 8/18/2021 at 6:24 PM, C.T. said:Added a quit content button in the VIVE menu
Love this - it was weird having to select yes to close a previous app or whatever when I just wanted to exit the app.
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On a side note - I can't believe I typo'd 'Higher' in the title lol
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12 hours ago, jaxx1974 said:
You are right, VRwanter, I should have asked previously, now my built goes into production the next week.
I possibly could instruct the company on Monday to add a PCI USB card to this built but I would require the precise name of it as I have no clue myself.
Without that PCI USB card I assume that I cannot use the AMD Streaming software for streaming, correct? How are you doing your streaming, Vrwanter? Is SteamVR performing well here too?
I also please the C.T admin to let us have the precise name of the card soonest possible.
Thanks in advance.
I only really use wireless streaming on the Focus 3, not USB; I have an Asus RT AX55 dedicated for wireless streaming and it works really well.
I've used USB with the Quest 2 and it seems to work fine, but not sure if they have the same chipset related issues..
Your build should be fine, it should only be an extra $40 or so to get the right USB card, but I haven't tried any, so I can't really recommend. I would think that anything with the ASM3242 chipset should be fine, but again, I can't really say for sure, since I haven't tried one.
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Thanks HackPerception - it would be great to get a coming soon, or could be several months or something - even if it's vague it would be great to have some idea.
I didn't realise Taipei was in lockdown - sorry to hear that.
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Has anyone seen any kind of ETA on when we can use a higher bit rate and/or resolution for streaming?
This comes up a fair bit, but I haven't seen any official responses as to whether or not it's actually even going to happen - did I miss something?
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I'm running a 3070 and AMD R5 3600 at the moment and they're going great. Don't forget when you're buying new gear that people are normally happy to help critique the build before you buy.
On 8/13/2021 at 1:27 AM, C.T. said:You may need to get a PCIe USB 3.0 expansion card with an ASMedia controller chip if you are running AMD platform for Streaming via USB now.
C.T. Do you have any more specific recommendations for a PCI USB card? Something with a ASM3142 chipset?
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No problem. The standalone part means that it can run stuff on its own without a computer. Streaming from the computer requires a fairly decent graphics card because you're not only running the PCVR application, you're also compressing and sending it to the headset and processing the commands/movement information that comes back from the headset.
Go to this link: https://business.vive.com/appstore/products and click 'Mobile VR' on the left, that will show you the stuff the headset can run natively without a computer at all. Hopefully you can find enough in there to keep you going until you can get a better PC.
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Hey,
Sorry to break it to you, but the GTX 950M is less than half the speed of the recommended minimum video card.
I don't know if anyone else has suggestions, but I don't believe this card will ever give tolerable performance for VR.
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Hey Jaxx,
If it's an all-in-one machine, your video card may not be great. You can check if you click the windows button down the bottom left, then type 'Device Manager' open that up and click the arrow beside 'Display Adapters' and let me know what's under there.
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If you give some more info about your setup, it will make it easier for people to offer assistance.
I'm guessing you're meaning the image is blurry? (Or do you mean it's jumpy and poor frame rate?)
What are your PC specs?
What wireless router/AP do you use? (You could try USB 3 to help eliminate wireless issues)
In Vive business streaming on your PC - are you using 'Quality' and '100Mbps'?
What's your SteamVR render resolution?
You're always going to have some blur in the image due to the lower streaming resolution and bitrate - I'm hanging out for higher res and bitrate though to make the image nicer. Although, I am getting used to it, I'll be very happy when we can increase these..
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4 hours ago, viwolf said:
Hi all,
is there any information about whether the bit rate will be increased? Or will compression be used in the future to improve the image? currently the picture does not look like the specified 2048x2048
No news that I've heard of yet, but hoping this is high on the priority list! Although if ggodin can get Virtual Desktop on here I'd be stoked with that too 🙂
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So I used SideQuest to copy video files onto the headset and that went ok, but I had to restart the headset before the files were visible to Vive Video.
Does anyone have a process that doesn't require a restart? Exiting the app and going back in didn't seem to help.
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23 hours ago, ShadowBrain said:
Haven't tried it yet but did check to see if you've raised the bitrate cap yet- it's still capped at 100 mbps!
Please let me use more of my available bandwidth to improve the image quality 🙏
Nope.. Still 100 tops
1200 mbps available but not good enough
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There's something wrong there for sure. I have used it with a 3070 on 100mbps and it worked great - very smooth.
Is your headset actually connecting at 1200?
Do you change the streaming settings to 100 before you connect to it?
Is your computer connected to the netgear with a cable?